Harley Benton HBZ-2005FL NT Deluxe Series

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Harley Benton HBZ-2005FL NT Deluxe Series
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HBZ-2005FL NT Deluxe
erezs 06.09.2020
Note that this review is for the fretless version.
I'm an intermediate player, I've got it 4 days ago, it's my first fretless and 5-stringer, first impressions is that it sounds great, it's BEAUTIFUL and the neck is very comfortable to play on. I love the wood grain of the Mahagony and 7 piece neck through ! It feels built sturdy and robust but only wear of time and use will tell.
The 5th string sounds tensed, growly and good to my taste.
It's stringed with D'addario roundwound, I like them very much, the bass is growly with them, and I will try to wear them out before I try the Pyramid black nylon tape wound I bought with it.
It came with some minor wood flaws in the finish, one in the back, a very small tear, one on the neck - a 3 cmx0.5cm missed finish stripe, some others which are less important and the most important one, is a very small but nudging bump on the back of the neck, and the left hand thumb sometimes feel it, but I will get use to it, and if not, I'll sand down it myself...
There is no passive mode for the pickups and It has a modern kind of sound (others would simply call it active sound), I couldn't really get to that Jazz bass Jaco type of bridge sound (at least not with a flat amp), but I have it in my fretted Jazz bass so I don't care for it too much.
I got it with that comfortable higher action which gives me that typical jazzy "fretless envelope" only on the first 2 strings, I guess I have to lower the action a bit to get more of that vibe which I like.
Intonation seems correct out of the box (+-2 cents for the 12 fret harmonics compared to open strings at least according to my phone which has its microphone limitations).
Overall VERY GOOD value for the money, and I also think it's a great fretless 5-stringer instrument to begin with as an intermediate player, I'm not a pro though.
It took its time to arrive from Germany to Israel but it was late only by a few days from Thomann estimations. Thomann service were very kind and explained patiently what might cause the delay, and opened an investigation with DHL, but it wasn't required in the end.
Notice is not lined in the frets, there are only marks on the upper side of the neck - but that was good enough for me for now, time will tell, as I still don't play it well.

Pros:
Sounds great
Good 5th string sound
Beautiful
Comfortable neck
Sturdy built
Relatively not expensive
Good play-abiliy out of the box
Nice strings though some would rather something flatter wound for fretless

Cons:
No passive/active switch, I might add it one day myself
Minor wood flaws
Less versatile sound than a Jazz Bass (not sure it's a con...)
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Good instrument, needed heavy setup
Shahar Klinger 18.06.2021
Construction is very good - couldn't find any flaws or defects. Sounds excellent and packs quite a punch. Pickups buzz when the selector is set to 100% of either one. When in the middle the buzz is gone, and I like the tone in that position anyway so that is where I play most of the time.

The only real problem I had was the condition of the instrument upon arrival. I don't know if it was intentional, but the bass came virtually unplayable: the neck had such a strong back-bow that I was afraid it would break in half if I touch it. I needed to loosen the truss-rod considerably before the first string would even play an audible note. Intonation was abysmal, and even after adjustment it's not perfect.

If you don't know how to setup your instrument, be prepared to spend extra money for a setup at a guitar shop or luthier.

Overall I really like this bass and recommend it. I hope your order comes in better shape than mine.
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Astonishing
breadfish 11.04.2024
We live in the world where the online reviews are heavily diluted and barely mean anything anymore. I do find that it is important to leave the most objective review as possible.
Why did I get this bass?
I was looking to get a fretless bass for over a year now. Having played a fretted 5-string Fender J-bass for a while now, I was just looking for something different in terms of sound and also to have a decent back-up instrument. I have tried Ibanez EHB1005F (retails for ~$1,800 CAD+tax) and was extremely underwhelmed by the build quality. You can talk all you want about the materials and craftsmanship, but if the instrument does not feel right - it does not feel right. Since then, I was on a hunt to get a more affordable and a better build instrument.

Price:
You cannot talk about any other aspects of this bass before mentioning the price. It is absolutely ridiculous how low it's priced. This is not a call for the manufacturer to increase the price, but more of an appreciation nod. One of the reasons I pulled a trigger on this is that I told myself that even if it's the worst instrument in the world, it's still very well priced.

Build:
I have absolutely no idea how Harley Benton manages to build these instruments at this cost and make a substantial profit. Yes, people that look for imperfections will certainly find something to complain about in terms of the finish or the wood grain or whatever. For a bassist that just wants to play the instrument and enjoy its overall looks, this is more than enough.

Setup / Shipping / Customer Service:
The only negative reactions I've read in regards to HBZ-2005FL were related to the poor setup that they received the bass in. This was not my case. In a matter of fact, it was set up probably better than I would set it up. I've done some minor pickup height and bridge adjustments, but they were not absolutely necessary. I guess that is hit-or-miss for some then.
Shipping halfway across the world to Canada was smooth and uneventful, as I was prepared for the customs to grab their share of $60 CAD for it. My interraction with Thomann has been great as well, as the team was responsive and efficient in addressing my concerns.

Overall:
This is by far the most underpriced instrument I currently own and I am looking forward to playing more with it. If I lived in Europe, this would have been a no-brainer for me a year ago.
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I wanted to love this bass but...
DrWats 15.08.2022
I ordered this bass due in part to the overwhelming amount of stellar reviews HB has been getting on all their instruments (not just basses!). After waiting much longer than the "3 day shipping", it finally arrived. While the bass was playable, the construction left ALOT to be desired. You could feel all the stripes of wood as they had not been sanded flush (from the top of the neck all the way down the body, front and back!) and the fit and finish was very mediocre (lots of spots needing touch ups). I should have sent it back but it would be such a hassle and I decided it would become my summer project bass (complete the sanding, radius and coat the fingerboard with ca glue, replace electronics, tuners etc..). To say I am disappointed is an understatement and I cannot recommend this bass at all. It makes me wonder if an actual human gives the bass a once over before it is shipped as this one should never have been sent out. You can do better Thomann!!
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Fantastic 5 string for the price
DaffidTrumpet 20.03.2022
Have been wanting to try a 5 string for a long time and also fancied returning to a fretless. This ticks both boxes and sounds terrific art the same time. There are not many 5 strings or fretless bases on the UK market (at least not compared to 4 string fretted) and prices tend to be quite high. This played really well straight from the box. only reason for not giving five stars all round is that I can't understand why they don't come with flat wound strings as standard?
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Nice fretless
RAMBOBG 10.03.2024
Actually it's my first fretless bass and I waited for a good long of time (almost 2 years) to write down my object opinion. So I used it primarily at home, but jammed with friends as well multiple times. My honest opinion is that this bass is most suitable for workhorse studio usage, not gigging. I had issue with electronics (bad soldering) and occasionally my input jack unscrews, which is an easy fix, so I keep it on, not a big deal, but can be improved.
Now regarding the sound - I use rechargable batteries and didn't notice difference than normal ones - the sound feels amazing for the price point. I actually don't know if some high-end instrument can sound better than this. Pickups are good, still using the original strings, btw.
After two years of usage the strings started eating the fretboard (especially 4th and 5th), because are roundwound. I saw that on normal fretless basses there is some epoxy or lacquer to save the fretboard from scratches. Nevertheless it does not make any difference for me for now. Tuners are fine, bridge is good, I would definately buy an upgraded version of this instrument.
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Love the new bass
BlaineW56 04.03.2022
I've wanted a five-string and a fretless for a long time.
I'm very pleased with the action and the feel of the bass.
Beautiful wood work as well. Would gladly trade my old Fender P-Bass for another Harley-Benton.
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Wonderful value for money
JohnS130 09.03.2021
This bass cost me €299! It's a five strip neck through body which looks absolutely beautiful. My main bass is a 5 string Warwick Thumb NT and to my surprise this bass plays nearly as good as the Warick for a fraction of what the Warwick costs. I have been thinking about geting a 4 string bass for a while and I will more than likely buy a Harley Benton 4 string considering how happy I am with the fretless.
I would without a doubt recommend this bass for either someone playing for a long time like myself or a beginner.
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Awesome
magicpete1111 02.12.2021
Beautiful to look at, wonderful sounding. A well made bass guitar.
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Will probably swap the pickups sometime in the future, but overall great unit
Kawaiieg 10.02.2023
The bass stays in tune and plays great, really sings. the 2-band EQ works as expected, although the high shelf can introduce some noise when cranked up. The one issue I do have with it is that there is surprisingly little to no difference between the two pickups in terms of sound. You can hear the blend knob doing its thing but the sound remains mostly the same.
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Harley Benton HBZ-2005FL NT Deluxe Series