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Bought this after not playing guitar for around 7 to 8 years, previously owned a number of guitars, but never anything you'd call "expensive". Bought this because the reason I started playing were the signature guitars of a certain man from Slipknot, and the price was very good - why not? Arrived in Croatia in 3 business days.
It amazed me that the overall quality of the guitar is much, much higher than the cheap strat copies of just a few years back. Everything is well set up, there are no build quality issues at all and the guitar looks very great to the eye. Frets are well-polished and the guitar needs just a bit of setting up right from the box. I feel like I got a very well-made instrument, especially considering the cost.
The neck is a bit thicker than I'd like, and the action came a bit high from the factory so I needed to adjust it, but other than that the neck is as strat-like as I remembered. Very easy to play, and looks very nice as well. The strings on it are interesting as well - they're .010-.046 which gives you the opportunity to tune a bit deeper right out of the box. I'd recommend buying a set of thicker strings if you plan on tuning to very low tunings of course.
The pickups are possibly the weakest part of the guitar, but they sound good if you don't go crazy on the gain and volume - probably the first thing that many people will replace, but for the price, I feel like they are much more than you could wish for. They can definitely sound very evil if that's what you're looking for - paired with the Neural DSP Gojira plugin it does sound surprisingly close to the real thing.
The fact that the battery compartment is routed already is a big plus, I feel like this makes me want to work on the guitar and modify it in the future.
In conclusion, it's not on the same level as the guitar it pays tribute to, and of course, it's not a perfect instrument. It is a very capable metal guitar, though, and a great platform for improvement. I also bought a replacement Graphtech Nut and some locking tuners for it - but will wait for these improvements when I change the strings.
All in all - amazing value not just for this price, I'd be happy to even pay 100€ more for it if it had a bit better pickups.
It amazed me that the overall quality of the guitar is much, much higher than the cheap strat copies of just a few years back. Everything is well set up, there are no build quality issues at all and the guitar looks very great to the eye. Frets are well-polished and the guitar needs just a bit of setting up right from the box. I feel like I got a very well-made instrument, especially considering the cost.
The neck is a bit thicker than I'd like, and the action came a bit high from the factory so I needed to adjust it, but other than that the neck is as strat-like as I remembered. Very easy to play, and looks very nice as well. The strings on it are interesting as well - they're .010-.046 which gives you the opportunity to tune a bit deeper right out of the box. I'd recommend buying a set of thicker strings if you plan on tuning to very low tunings of course.
The pickups are possibly the weakest part of the guitar, but they sound good if you don't go crazy on the gain and volume - probably the first thing that many people will replace, but for the price, I feel like they are much more than you could wish for. They can definitely sound very evil if that's what you're looking for - paired with the Neural DSP Gojira plugin it does sound surprisingly close to the real thing.
The fact that the battery compartment is routed already is a big plus, I feel like this makes me want to work on the guitar and modify it in the future.
In conclusion, it's not on the same level as the guitar it pays tribute to, and of course, it's not a perfect instrument. It is a very capable metal guitar, though, and a great platform for improvement. I also bought a replacement Graphtech Nut and some locking tuners for it - but will wait for these improvements when I change the strings.
All in all - amazing value not just for this price, I'd be happy to even pay 100€ more for it if it had a bit better pickups.
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Bad quality even for the price.
Great sounding guitar. But the intonation was horrible and somewhat unfixable due to bad fret work and somewhat curved neck. I've got a few guitars from Harley Benton and i love some of them. Even replaced my expensive guitars but this model, atleast mine, was unfixable unless i spend a lot of money on it.
The sound however is very good. A bit sharp/bright for my taste in metal guitars but nothing wrong with it.
The sound however is very good. A bit sharp/bright for my taste in metal guitars but nothing wrong with it.
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Great value, great guitar - but not perfect.
So I'd like to preface this first by saying that the guitar, compared to the starter kits (or the entry-level Epiphones in my case) that were around when I first started many, many years ago, is great, stunning, and excellent value.
How many entry-level guitars at this price point have active pickups?
How many guitars at this price point have active pickups at all, in fact?
How many entry-level guitars look as sleek and good as this?
(Yes, obviously taking inspiration from the Jim Root Strat.. but still!)
How many create entry-level guitars that serve pretty niche music styles?
So obviously I like the guitar; it looks fine as hell, it has active pickups and it was a good value for something I intend to slap some 12-62 gauge strings on and pick up from time to time. But I do not pick it up from time to time. I pick it up most days, sometimes over my MIJ Strat or my £1000+ Ibanez AZ. Perhaps because I'm very precious over at least one of those instruments.
That's not because it's on the same level of quality, but because even though it's cheaply priced it does exactly what I need a guitar to do.
Now that I've finished the good. There are however some things I'd like to talk about...
The tuners:
They're inconsistent, do not hold tune (even with the fixed bridge), some are mushy feeling and some are stiff as anything and I had no confidence that they would tolerate higher string gauges at all too well.. so this was something I identified immediately to be fixed...
Fortunately, this is an easy fix. I'd really recommend, if you're purchasing this guitar, purchasing also some locking tuners. I immediately replaced mine with some Gotoh MGT locking tuners for about £60-£70. There are probably some cheaper ones out there, but I have never had issues with the Gotohs on my other guitars. Tuning stability fixed!
The Fretwork:
I hate to say it as I've been singing its praises: the fretwork... It just isn't good. This seems to be endemic across HB's budget guitars (at least from the two HB guitars I've experienced).
They leave the factory scuffed and scratchy as anything — something that could be easily fixed in QC or in the factory with 5–10 minutes of extra care.
This too is an easy fix during the first string change, and this ought to be as soon as you receive a guitar, really. Grab some 0000 wire wool and just give each fret 30 to 60 seconds of care. I do a lot of work on my guitars, so fortunately I have this stuff lying around - but this could be a nuisance for some of you.
They are definitely uneven around the 15th fret (on two budget HB guitars I've come into contact with), and I'm a little less equipped to deal with this issue, but I tolerate it for now. When I'm playing through my amp, which is most of the time, I don't even notice it and so in my mind it doesn't affect the playability whatsoever. I have a feeling this is a result of the change in climate the instrument has been through during transport.
Ideally, Thomann would have a small team that picked up on these issues before shipping and had them addressed, but quite honestly, for this price, that's probably a big ask.
Other:
Glue seepage from the frets left dirty brown residue around the frets the entire length of the fretboard.
The neck is a little on the thick side... but I'm used to the hard V on my Strat so quite honestly, anything is more comfortable than that, and there are a few scratches in the finish around the neck join. (This seems to be pretty common at basically every level of guitar these days; even the latest Fender AVRIs suffer this)
Finally, I also praised the fact that the guitar has active pickups. However, these pickups are HOT... You will not get the sparkling cleans out of these that you would from an EMG set. They are very noisy. I don't think it's due to the grounding issue mentioned in other reviews. Just a situation of: you get what you pay for. They're budget active pickups on a budget guitar. So don't expect EMG / Fishman quality. I turn the knob down to about 7, and that seems to do the trick. But long-term, some of you may wish to replace these.
I know I spent more time critiquing the instrument than I have on the good. But as with all purchases, I think everyone should be as informed as possible about what they're getting, and for some people, a 'project, no matter how big or small, is not what they're looking for. This has some elements of a project to it. But equally, straight out of the box, it was still perfectly playable — just not as playable as it could be.
Remember... At the end of the day, it is priced at an entry-level guitar, and for the issues I'm raising, I cannot fault it. I've certainly owned worse guitars in the past for about the same price or more.
I still own the guitar, I don't regret its purchase, I didn't send it back, and I still play it most days; I'm not precious over it, I don't love it and I don't hate it. So to me I'm just pleased with the value I've got out of it already for the price I paid and that I got a guitar I can down-tune without costing me a fortune. I'd recommend it to anybody in the same position and on a budget.
How many entry-level guitars at this price point have active pickups?
How many guitars at this price point have active pickups at all, in fact?
How many entry-level guitars look as sleek and good as this?
(Yes, obviously taking inspiration from the Jim Root Strat.. but still!)
How many create entry-level guitars that serve pretty niche music styles?
So obviously I like the guitar; it looks fine as hell, it has active pickups and it was a good value for something I intend to slap some 12-62 gauge strings on and pick up from time to time. But I do not pick it up from time to time. I pick it up most days, sometimes over my MIJ Strat or my £1000+ Ibanez AZ. Perhaps because I'm very precious over at least one of those instruments.
That's not because it's on the same level of quality, but because even though it's cheaply priced it does exactly what I need a guitar to do.
Now that I've finished the good. There are however some things I'd like to talk about...
The tuners:
They're inconsistent, do not hold tune (even with the fixed bridge), some are mushy feeling and some are stiff as anything and I had no confidence that they would tolerate higher string gauges at all too well.. so this was something I identified immediately to be fixed...
Fortunately, this is an easy fix. I'd really recommend, if you're purchasing this guitar, purchasing also some locking tuners. I immediately replaced mine with some Gotoh MGT locking tuners for about £60-£70. There are probably some cheaper ones out there, but I have never had issues with the Gotohs on my other guitars. Tuning stability fixed!
The Fretwork:
I hate to say it as I've been singing its praises: the fretwork... It just isn't good. This seems to be endemic across HB's budget guitars (at least from the two HB guitars I've experienced).
They leave the factory scuffed and scratchy as anything — something that could be easily fixed in QC or in the factory with 5–10 minutes of extra care.
This too is an easy fix during the first string change, and this ought to be as soon as you receive a guitar, really. Grab some 0000 wire wool and just give each fret 30 to 60 seconds of care. I do a lot of work on my guitars, so fortunately I have this stuff lying around - but this could be a nuisance for some of you.
They are definitely uneven around the 15th fret (on two budget HB guitars I've come into contact with), and I'm a little less equipped to deal with this issue, but I tolerate it for now. When I'm playing through my amp, which is most of the time, I don't even notice it and so in my mind it doesn't affect the playability whatsoever. I have a feeling this is a result of the change in climate the instrument has been through during transport.
Ideally, Thomann would have a small team that picked up on these issues before shipping and had them addressed, but quite honestly, for this price, that's probably a big ask.
Other:
Glue seepage from the frets left dirty brown residue around the frets the entire length of the fretboard.
The neck is a little on the thick side... but I'm used to the hard V on my Strat so quite honestly, anything is more comfortable than that, and there are a few scratches in the finish around the neck join. (This seems to be pretty common at basically every level of guitar these days; even the latest Fender AVRIs suffer this)
Finally, I also praised the fact that the guitar has active pickups. However, these pickups are HOT... You will not get the sparkling cleans out of these that you would from an EMG set. They are very noisy. I don't think it's due to the grounding issue mentioned in other reviews. Just a situation of: you get what you pay for. They're budget active pickups on a budget guitar. So don't expect EMG / Fishman quality. I turn the knob down to about 7, and that seems to do the trick. But long-term, some of you may wish to replace these.
I know I spent more time critiquing the instrument than I have on the good. But as with all purchases, I think everyone should be as informed as possible about what they're getting, and for some people, a 'project, no matter how big or small, is not what they're looking for. This has some elements of a project to it. But equally, straight out of the box, it was still perfectly playable — just not as playable as it could be.
Remember... At the end of the day, it is priced at an entry-level guitar, and for the issues I'm raising, I cannot fault it. I've certainly owned worse guitars in the past for about the same price or more.
I still own the guitar, I don't regret its purchase, I didn't send it back, and I still play it most days; I'm not precious over it, I don't love it and I don't hate it. So to me I'm just pleased with the value I've got out of it already for the price I paid and that I got a guitar I can down-tune without costing me a fortune. I'd recommend it to anybody in the same position and on a budget.
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Perfect metal/blues guitar
It's perfect sounds and feels guitar.
It's delivered untuned, tuning was easer then on other guitars.
Guitar is really loud.
Neck feels really comfortable.
On bridge pickup it's nice metal guitar.
On neck it's sounds like oldschool blues.
Sustain is really long, i think it's because of fixed bridge.
I compare this with my jackson dinky and ibanez blazer, this guitar is better then jackson, and pretty close to ibanez.
It's looks fantastic. And feels the same.
Harley Benton, please create firerbird with the same specs.
It's delivered untuned, tuning was easer then on other guitars.
Guitar is really loud.
Neck feels really comfortable.
On bridge pickup it's nice metal guitar.
On neck it's sounds like oldschool blues.
Sustain is really long, i think it's because of fixed bridge.
I compare this with my jackson dinky and ibanez blazer, this guitar is better then jackson, and pretty close to ibanez.
It's looks fantastic. And feels the same.
Harley Benton, please create firerbird with the same specs.
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no messing about at an unmissable price
i have recently taken up playing again after many years and was looking for a cheap but meaty sounding guitar for heavy metal playing.
the guitar comes well built and looks gorgeous with nice string heights to pickups already giving out some beefy sound and only just out of tune.
after about an hour of checking over the guitar i was mighty impressed,the neck is fast and smooth the pickups are really good especially after stretching the strings and re tuning a few times.
i tried this with my boss katana mk 2 100 and a few nice cheap pedals from Harley Benton and Donner.
The sound when using some smooth and subtle overdrive is insane for the price, i mean you simply wont get this sound any cheaper.
I have done some calculating and i really don't see how they can make money on this guitar and even today the price has gone down by like £2.
If you are in the market for a good looking amazing sounding heavy guitar i really cant say this enough "buy this thing now" before the back orders get longer and longer, i've just bought another in case anything happens to my 1st!
the guitar comes well built and looks gorgeous with nice string heights to pickups already giving out some beefy sound and only just out of tune.
after about an hour of checking over the guitar i was mighty impressed,the neck is fast and smooth the pickups are really good especially after stretching the strings and re tuning a few times.
i tried this with my boss katana mk 2 100 and a few nice cheap pedals from Harley Benton and Donner.
The sound when using some smooth and subtle overdrive is insane for the price, i mean you simply wont get this sound any cheaper.
I have done some calculating and i really don't see how they can make money on this guitar and even today the price has gone down by like £2.
If you are in the market for a good looking amazing sounding heavy guitar i really cant say this enough "buy this thing now" before the back orders get longer and longer, i've just bought another in case anything happens to my 1st!
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Cannot fault for the money.
For the price this thing is out there as one of the best affordable guitars you can buy. I wasn't expecting the quality to be as good as it was. No sharp frets, nice bridge which intonates well, tuners do the job, nut does the job. I had to take the bridge off to restring as one of the holes had debris from drilling but was sorted within minutes. Pickups are great. Very very hot. I immediately tuned this to Drop B with 56-11s, tweaked the truss rod, adjusted the strings at the bridge and it plays fantastic. Nut needed filing but it's only plastic. I imagine this will need changing if you plan to drop tune long term. Stays in tune too!
All in all, it looks absolutely beautiful, plays really well with a slightly chunkier neck than I was expecting (definitely not a thin neck, more a nice comfortable C profile) and it was just over £130 with a gig bag.
Bang for your buck for sure.
All in all, it looks absolutely beautiful, plays really well with a slightly chunkier neck than I was expecting (definitely not a thin neck, more a nice comfortable C profile) and it was just over £130 with a gig bag.
Bang for your buck for sure.
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Harley Benton ST-20HH
Ordered the Harley Benton ST-20HH. Arrived within 3 days very speedy delivery. Absolutely love everything about this guitar. Quality is amazing and sound is phenomenal.
I had a issue with one of the tuners but with a message to the claims department they and sending me a new tuner. Amazing staff with quick responses. 10 out of 10 will definitely be seeing more of my business.
I had a issue with one of the tuners but with a message to the claims department they and sending me a new tuner. Amazing staff with quick responses. 10 out of 10 will definitely be seeing more of my business.
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Solid cheap Rock guitar
Heavy sound, good construction for the price, feels good to play. Minor nitpicks (such as slightly rough fret edges,) but great quality for such an inexpensive guitar choice.
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Stealth like Ax with fantastic action and tone
Stealth like Ax with fantastic action and tone. The EMG pickups are perfect for this player. Low action right out of the box. I had to make a few adjustments to the neck and bridge, but it was minimal and has played like butter ever since I set the intonation. I love this guitar and for the price, you just can't beat it. Hoping they make one with a locking trem.
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Ignore the price. It sounds like it looks, really nice.
As soon as it came out, it got my attention. A really cool matt finish, all in black, active pick-ups, a real metal machine, just what I needed. I expected good value for the money as with the previous harley benton guitars/gear I ordered.
Overall Impression:
I'm blown away by this one. The finish is excellent, it looks even better than on the photos. The pickups are definitly good with heavy distortion, but they are even inspiring to use with less distortion or even clean. It plays great, no rough edges or anything disturbing. A good weight, my Fender strat weighs more. I can't fault it. When I ordered this guitar I thought I would have to mod it later, bit suprisingly it is great out of the box.
Conclusion:
For the looks alone it's a bargain but it sounds and plays better than I would expect from a stock guitar at this pricepoint. I don't see how such a good guitar can disappoint.
Overall Impression:
I'm blown away by this one. The finish is excellent, it looks even better than on the photos. The pickups are definitly good with heavy distortion, but they are even inspiring to use with less distortion or even clean. It plays great, no rough edges or anything disturbing. A good weight, my Fender strat weighs more. I can't fault it. When I ordered this guitar I thought I would have to mod it later, bit suprisingly it is great out of the box.
Conclusion:
For the looks alone it's a bargain but it sounds and plays better than I would expect from a stock guitar at this pricepoint. I don't see how such a good guitar can disappoint.
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