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Changed some old Evans EC2 drumheads to these, as I was exploring something a little different. Obviously, without the integrated control rings I needed to spend a good amount of time more tuning to get the sound I was looking for, but they are more open and musical. I believe they can sound a little plastically (hence the 4/5 for sound) but this is personal preference. Quality what you'd expect from a major brand, despite personal preference.